In this episode of The Healing Law Podcast, Douglas Dedrick speaks with writer and advocate Wesley Myers, who is currently working on his upcoming book Law and Disorder.
Wesley shares personal experiences that shaped his perspective on policing, authority, and the imbalance of power that can develop between citizens and institutions. Drawing from encounters with law enforcement throughout his life, he explores how modern policing often conflicts with the natural principles of law it was originally meant to protect.
Topics Discussed
- Natural law vs modern legal systems
- Police accountability and body cameras
- Political influence over law enforcement
- Personal encounters with police
- The philosophy behind Wesley’s upcoming book Law and Disorder
- Artificial intelligence and the question of machine consciousness
- Technology and society
About Wesley Myers
Wesley Myers is a writer currently working on a book titled Law and Disorder, which examines policing, power structures, and the philosophical foundations of law in modern society.
Follow Wesley on YouTube at SlayTheBrother.
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Episode Transcript:
Douglas Dedrick (00:01)
Welcome to the Healing Law Podcast. I’m your host Douglas. Today we’re going to be talking about health law and nature as we always do here. And today we have Wesley Myers, aka Kill Trap. He’s a writer and advocate. He’s currently writing a book called Law and Disorder. And we’re going to get into what that book’s about and some of his ideas on tech and consciousness and police interactions in general. Wesley, how you doing today, man?
Wesley Myers (00:23)
pretty good. I’m kind of glad you threw in my streamer name there. You know, every now and then I do get back onto Slay the Brother and start streaming with my brother. yeah, but today I’m here to talk about my book, upcoming book I’m working on called Law and Disorder. ⁓ In the book, I use some of my own experiences with police that I’ve had throughout my life to kind of frame why I have the opinions I have and why the powers police have are just, you know, as
You care about our nature and law. So I’ll phrase it this way, they’re just unnaturally unlawful. But, you know, one of the main goals of the police we have today is it was supposed to be a civilian police force to kind of prevent governments from using more militaristic approaches. And that’s really unnatural for the hierarchy of man to begin with. When you have to use violence to force your opinion on somebody or force your way of life on somebody, right there, you know, you’re breaking a natural hierarchy.
Unless of course they actually are harming somebody. So you know with that kind of balancing act you know you do need somebody to do this kind of stuff. ⁓ I think I went a little off train, sorry. ⁓
Douglas Dedrick (01:30)
No, you’re fine. So
well, I mean, you’re kind of pointing to like this the systemic issues at hand here because we live in a society that’s all corporate, you know, corporations have taken a like control and power in many ways and they run the police and they run the jails and it’s really it’s not what it was meant to be by any means. It’s become this totally other obfuscation of, you know, this attempt to be something natural and organic and lawful. But it’s become this ⁓
I don’t know how to phrase it, they’ve hijacked it with this whole system here. You’re better at explaining it than me.
Wesley Myers (02:06)
Yeah, you have a few different machines here because like for corporate as far as corporations are concerned, this is mainly done through the prison systems. mean, ⁓ and that’s not where I’m focusing a lot of my work on. ⁓ But yeah, you know, if you are, if you do care about something like that, then going down those rabbit holes will do nothing but make you mad. ⁓ But, you know, police themselves actually in more cases than not, they’re owned by politicians and now they themselves can be owned by corporations.
So it does tie into that too, most, you know, as a lot of people on the right have seen when a governor or a mayor has a political agenda, they often seem to handcuff local police and they can’t do the job they want to do. And when we look at what’s happening up in what happened in Minnesota recently with ICE, you know, you cannot objectively say that if the police were able to act out deaths would have been prevented. but because
them doing anything was viewed as aiding ICE, ended up, people ended up getting killed because obviously ICE wasn’t trained for this, they’re trained in fugitive apprehension. They’re clearly a military police force, they’re not a civilian police force, so having them go in there and deal with civilians like that on the daily, have to do crowd control for protest against them, it just wasn’t a good idea from the start. you know, so yeah, bad things happen when,
The citizens and police don’t have agency over the police.
Douglas Dedrick (03:38)
Yeah, local police are much better capable to handle, especially locals and people like the ice is, you know, the supposedly Renee, what’s her name? She got shot, but she was like ⁓ an American and Renee Good. She was an American. You know, why were why was ice even interacting with her to begin with? Why weren’t the police buffering in between them like the local police departments? You see, like there was this guy, Jake Lang, he went out there by himself. He was assaulted by the crowd for like an hour.
Wesley Myers (03:48)
Renee Goode,
Douglas Dedrick (04:07)
It was maybe it wasn’t quite that one, but it was pretty long time and not one time did the police step in and stop anything. It was insane. Very interesting.
Wesley Myers (04:17)
looked into that store, haven’t seen anything about it. So this guy was in the crowd, like interacting with the protesters. Obviously he was probably against the protest or pro-ice. And because the police were ordered to stand down for any reason necessary, they weren’t able to step in and help this man.
Douglas Dedrick (04:34)
Well, I wouldn’t say he’s innocent by any means. He went there to agitate and antagonize. He went up there with a microphone, was playing ice ice baby in front of the crowd by himself. Allegedly, he was surrounded by like 50 cameramen who some of which were definitely with him. But yeah, he.
He did eventually get attacked by the crowd and was injured pretty badly. And then it devolved into a bunch of people. The crowd has started assaulting other crowd members. And at one point they’re like, he’s with us, he’s with us. And the police come and pick that guy up. was the one time that the police came in. It was this one guy, I think he was an undercover cop though. And that’s what they suspected. And then the police came and picked him up after they figured it out. I think that’s what happened. I’m not sure.
Wesley Myers (05:13)
And,
Wow, that is just a total shit show. I really don’t know what to think of that. ⁓
Yeah, don’t jump in the middle. It’s funny. It’s funny. People interact with cops and they get shot and you hear, what did you expect to happen? And I’m not going to say that about anybody, but you know, it kind of is the whole thing of like, yeah, man, if you’re going and agitating protesters, you are, you are asking for smoke up your ass.
Douglas Dedrick (05:47)
Oh, yeah. Yeah, he’s still going on, but I want to make the whole thing about him. I can tell you about him. I’ll send some information about him. But back to your book, Law and Disorder, man. Hit us up with some more of that, what you’ve been researching there.
Wesley Myers (06:00)
Yeah, actually need to stay focused and not start ranting on bad side topics. So yeah, I guess I’ll break down how the book is going to be going at that. Sorry. I’ll break down the book a little more consistently. Cause like I said, I’m going to use some of my own life experiences to explain stuff about police officers and a very clear one that we’ve kind of touched in with the examples you brought up, like with Renee Good is the imbalance of power and the use of force.
When I was a kid, I was probably eight years old the first time an officer actually threatened to shoot me. more or less I wanted to cross the street without her permission. And when I went to go across the street, she told me, if you move, if you take one more step, I’ll shoot you. And when I challenged her on this, ⁓ which ended up, what ended up happening is she said something along the lines of, I’m going to, I’ll just tell them you went to go reach for my gun and everyone will believe me.
even your parents. And you know, you’ve got to think as a child, you believe that shit. So that right there, I haven’t had the same worldview as most people have when it comes to police officers for more or less my entire life. Okay.
Douglas Dedrick (07:17)
Yeah, that’s very understandable.
That was only the I’ve never even heard. I don’t think you’ve ever told me that one. You’ve told you’ve had several encounters that were rather aggressive with the police.
Wesley Myers (07:26)
Yes, yes, yes, I have. I ⁓ especially when you’re a teenage teenager with more of a metal or punk aesthetic, you definitely have a lot of weird interactions with police you feel like you shouldn’t have. I remember one time I was at a coffee shop and I paid for a cup of coffee and walked away with it. And this cop is shouting at me like, hey, you come here, you, I’m talking to you. And I don’t know why he would be talking to me. So I don’t turn around. It ends up with him, like, physically turning me around, accusing me of stealing the coffee.
And if I ⁓ wasn’t in a coffee shop full of punks and goths who were actually willing to stand up to the police officer, I don’t know, I may have been drug outside and arrested over a $5 cup of coffee I paid for. So yeah, my life is riddled with experiences like that.
Douglas Dedrick (08:12)
Another story I haven’t heard of. That’s crazy.
How many interactions have you had like that with police? There were not interactions in federal, but like aggressive ones.
Wesley Myers (08:20)
You know this ring
⁓ I don’t know. You know this ring light makes me look a lot lighter than I am. They usually think I’m Hispanic.
Douglas Dedrick (08:36)
yeah, the hat.
Wesley Myers (08:36)
I mean, several or a dozen
though. Several or a dozen, yeah. mean… Especially when I was a teenager, because…
You know, I had a lot of bad experiences in school, especially that one with police officers. So I did skip school a lot as a teenager. ⁓ And cops know that kind of shit. They know which kids are skipped in school and smoking pot. And they like to bust their balls and stuff like that.
So, you know, like I’ve had a lot of bad run-ins with cops like that. I think I’ve told you about this one where this one cop who was mad at my friend about a physical or application they had had before, he had caught us after we had smoked weed. So we reek. We, you know, we smell like that fucking cheap ass brick weed that you get from the hood. And he knows, he knows we smoke. He knows we’re blitzed, but we don’t have any on us. We smoked it all. That’s what we’re telling him. And he’s over there threatening to cavity search us.
just for the psychological fear factor. Now I would hope this grown man would not want to sodomize two teenage boys.
But you know, this goes back to the point where I’m the point I made with Zero Finesse about how there’s a completely unnatural hierarchy. Because if you’re using threats of violence and death to get what you want out of people, you’re probably not doing the right things. You don’t have the right goals. I mean, how many people have been, it’s a common argument, but how many people have been shot or thrown in a cell for their entire life all over a little bag of weed?
Douglas Dedrick (09:40)
terrible.
Wesley Myers (10:09)
And sure, when I say a little bag I may mean a few pounds but… no one’s dying off that!
Douglas Dedrick (10:17)
Yeah, it’s definitely well, there’s an abuse of power is a huge thing. so in your research, have you seen like effective ⁓ things like effective mechanisms that kind of like control that abuse of power or better perspectives that they could have? Like, is there anything that you’ve seen that’s illustrated like what you would think is a better way?
Wesley Myers (10:37)
Man, I should have brought notes because there is a few things. just can’t think of anything off the top of my head. But, you know, there is a balance between the agency a police officer needs over their own actions and the amount of control that should be exerted upon them and to who should be exerting that control. Because as I said earlier about politicians, they really they’ve got them by the balls. They’ve got all the cops by the balls. And, you know,
Douglas Dedrick (10:43)
Well, if something comes up, yeah, feel free.
Wesley Myers (11:06)
The thing about your sheriff is he’s not actually a cop, he’s just a politician with a gun. And that’s something I go into with my book too, because after I was assaulted back in 2017, I ran into a lot of issues with my local police station. And to put it bluntly, that is exactly what the sheriff told me. He’s just a politician with a gun. But this is a politician that actually does have the right to shoot you, and to justify your shooting on public media.
You know, if you look at someone like Grady Judd, he’s America’s sweetheart if you are a very pro cop person. But he has said some of the most fucked up shit throughout my entire life. Like one thing I talk about in the book is his famous quote where this dude ends up shooting a cop in a K9 unit, running in the woods. And once they surround him, he allegedly raises his gun at SWAT and they fire back. I have to say allegedly because Polk County, Florida does not wear body cams.
they only have outward, I think they have outward facing, yeah they do have outward facing dash cams, but not inward facing dash cams. And if you look into it, Grady Judd is very pro surveillance on the civilian population. They even have a spy plane. But regardless, going back to the story, when his officers unloaded all the ammo they have, and I think they shot him 38 times or some shit like that, a reporter asked, why did you shoot him so much?
And this is the famous quote, this is what people celebrate and that my entire life I found a little disturbing because of my original experience. ⁓ He said, I imagine we ran out of bullets.
Now, okay, that’s I get it. That’s funny. That is that is peak lowbrow humor. I can laugh at that. Not no lie. But if that is your what you’re saying from your heart, the amount of apathy you have as a human being, you shouldn’t be in charge of this because there should be policing with compassion.
Douglas Dedrick (13:02)
Well, the police should be serving their neighbors. They shouldn’t be this separate force. That’s like separate from the community They should be involved in the community like everyone else if they want to police the community That being said you kind of brought up one potential solution I guess you’re saying Polk County does not have body-worn cameras Do you think in general that that’s a helpful thing for police to have do you think that it’s improved interactions overall?
Wesley Myers (13:26)
Absolutely, because accountability means that the civilian population actually can’t, you know, have some control over the police. Because yeah, going back to your original question, which I realize I totally went off track from. Yeah, you know, things like having body cameras and allowing police the ability to, ⁓ what’s the term, report something anonymously, anonymously make reports and stuff like that. Like,
One of the biggest problems with this blue wall is they fear internal repercussions.
So, you know, there’s a lot of things that have to be fixed with how the civilian population and police themselves can report on bad police. And that really does go a long way.
especially and another thing too though that I’ve noticed is has any if anybody has ever had to deal with police in the court ⁓ They’re they’re allowed to lie in court
And if you look at their actual mentality on the issue, it’s quite interesting because a lot of them think it’s just obstruction of justice. It’s just a misdemeanor. What’s the real issue? I’ve seen countless sheriffs say things along those lines. And it’s very disgusting because it’s like, how many people have you fucking thrown on the ground or pissed to what over a misdemeanor?
Douglas Dedrick (14:51)
Yeah, it’s crazy. I do want to keep these short and I don’t want to I want to get to a tech and consciousness because we’ve had a lot of interesting ⁓ talks about like AI. Well, it’s it’ll can you hear me? We can clip it out right here, but it’ll it uploads on both sides and then so it’ll come through clear as long as you can hear me. ⁓ AI and consciousness. I want to sidetrack into that a little bit because you’ve got a lot of interesting perspectives there.
Wesley Myers (15:01)
you’re completely breaking up on my end.
Douglas Dedrick (15:22)
Can hear me?
Can you hear me?
Wesley Myers (15:34)
yeah, I can hear you now.
Douglas Dedrick (15:35)
Okay. Yeah, don’t worry because i’ll clip this out. ⁓ and if it’s like if it’s garbly it’ll come it uploads from my side and from yours So it won’t come through like that. So okay, so Let me i’ll i’ll reverse and get back to this. We’ll cut all that out. I want to switch topics here. We’ve had a lot of interesting conversations about like ai and consciousness ⁓ what you because you have a very unique perspective there
Wesley Myers (15:46)
⁓ cool.
Douglas Dedrick (16:03)
⁓ Do you think the AI is conscious itself?
Wesley Myers (16:11)
God damn, I’m just gonna drop the big one
I’m not just gonna let you know I’ve been writing a lot of science fiction and fantasy science fiction. So I’ve been coping with this topic more and more as I’m doing that. But I don’t think per se AI itself is conscious. It depends on, I mean, it depends on what you mean by conscious. I think we don’t have a parallel, I don’t think we have a universal definition of consciousness to be honest. It can be an observer.
If that’s your definition of consciousness, then I guess it’s partially conscious. It has no relationship with time, so it’s a totally different observer than us. I mean, it’s just an agent. They’re just an agent of whatever they’re assigned to be an agent of, which in a sense is similar to humans because we can only be agents of what we can sense, but they have no sense mechanism.
I think the question of asking if AI is conscious is also, it’s like asking is our brain consciousness.
Our brain could be aspects of consciousness, but maybe not by itself? It’s a hard question to answer.
Douglas Dedrick (17:40)
Freaking do my connection sucks right now, sorry. I’m what? No.
Wesley Myers (17:43)
think you’re muted.
Douglas Dedrick (18:02)
Okay, I’m back. internet keeps going in and out. We’ll cut that part too. still?
Wesley Myers (18:07)
Yeah, I can’t hear anything yet.
See it’s unmuted
Douglas Dedrick (18:13)
Yo.
Wesley Myers (18:17)
There you are. Must be Wendy where you’re at. ⁓ shit, did he just drop?
Douglas Dedrick (18:20)
All right. No, it’s like a good day. don’t know man. It’s freaking never
had this many issues with it yet. Been pretty good so far, but anyhow, can you hear me?
Wesley Myers (18:26)
How did he drop if he’s recording?
Douglas Dedrick (18:34)
pretty campaign.
Mm-hmm.
Bum bum bum bum bum.
Wesley Myers (19:11)
I’m gonna check.
Douglas Dedrick (20:56)
Alright.
Okay.
you
Alright. Thank God for automation, dude. Say what?
Wesley Myers (21:59)
conservatives and more, I right?
Conservatives and war, am I right?
Douglas Dedrick (22:07)
yeah. ⁓ man.
Wesley Myers (22:09)
That’s a good sound clip.
we never talk about war on the podcast.
Douglas Dedrick (22:14)
Freak is thank God for the
automation tools automation tools will strip all this out All right We’re back. All right, let’s get back to it So AI and consciousness because I was asking because yesterday I was talking to the machine lies and he’s a panpsychist Which I believe is like I guess everything is consciousness where everything has consciousness
Wesley Myers (22:20)
Nice.
Yes.
Douglas Dedrick (22:36)
It’s a very interesting perspective from technology. ⁓
Wesley Myers (22:37)
it
Honestly, if you listen to lot of physicists, you run into some people who get accused of being panpsychists quite often when they are just trying to answer the same questions I was bringing up. What aspects define consciousness? Let’s look at being an observer. That clearly is one of the things we use to define consciousness. Well, everything can be an observer in one way or another, so we need to make a line here. And then all of sudden you’re a panpsychist.
Douglas Dedrick (23:11)
Right, the moment you start to ask questions like, is this consciousness? Is this, you know…
Wesley Myers (23:19)
Yeah, like, don’t know, because whenever I’ve tried to talk to a panpsychist, it’s always like a very broad, it’s a very broad thing. And I’m not trying to smack talk them or bring them down in any means. But like, let’s say, you know, here, I have a pencil sharpener.
Is the pencil sharpener conscious or are the razor blades, the screws, and the plastic casing conscious? If they have any level of consciousness to begin with.
Douglas Dedrick (23:54)
Well, some may argue that is like all of creation is one consciousness, I guess. Is that so that’s panpsychism. All of creation.
Wesley Myers (23:54)
Or a serve.
Okay, now that argument
for panpsych is, I can kinda, there are all aspects of consciousness, you know, how conscious are the cells in our body?
⁓ I can’t have this conversation without playing devil’s advocate with even myself.
Douglas Dedrick (24:13)
I mean, they’re there. ⁓
man, we’re getting, we’re getting way off of the leads here. Freaking ⁓ anyhow.
Wesley Myers (24:23)
Like, are Wavelake’s conscious?
Because the splits are, you know, none of us understand the double split experiment. None of us understand that shit.
Douglas Dedrick (24:27)
Well, light itself, I assume like-
Well,
light itself is like kind of consciousness and it kind of I saw this documentary is like rocks are just light. They harden like it’s just a hard form of light. So it’s everything is really just light and waves. So it is like one form of consciousness I would suspect. But anyhow.
Wesley Myers (24:50)
Everything reflects and absorbs light, I guess. But you know, light, I think I told you about this one where they had an experiment where they moved a plant to see how much it would move for the light. And at one point, the light ended up moving to the plant.
Douglas Dedrick (25:05)
What? They measured the light moving towards the plant?
Wesley Myers (25:06)
Yeah, yeah.
Yes, there was actually the waves kind of like the wavelengths kind of like widened a little bit, thinned out a little bit or something like that. you know, like when they were measuring the UV waves around it, they could see like they have this cloudy image around the window going towards the plant. And then you can see as they moved too far, all of sudden the the cloudiness that was the light, the UV, the photons, that’s moved out a little bit too.
Douglas Dedrick (25:12)
Wow, I never heard that one.
Huh. That’s fascinating. I’ll have to look into that one. We’re running out of time here. I do want to ask you about a… You ever heard of fulvic acid?
Wesley Myers (25:51)
Fulvic acid. ⁓ Is that the dirt people are licking off the Amazon rainforest?
Douglas Dedrick (25:57)
Well, it would be present in the dirt there. But you know, it’s basically ancient plant compost broken down over like thousands or millions of years, right? And it’s got all like the compounds that the plants had, all the polyphenols, probably the things that they used to attract the light somehow, you know, whatever that is. It breaks down over time. It’s great for our bodies. It helps with energy and stuff like that. Because this is…
Wesley, this the Healing Law podcast is sponsored by our great sponsor, American Grit Fulvic. And you can find out more about that at OperationAmericanGrit.com. Enough of that. Enough of that.
Wesley Myers (26:28)
and it’s better
than the dirt here in Kansas. Because when I the dirt off the ground here, I just get a kidney stone.
Douglas Dedrick (26:31)
it’s way better than a dirt and canvas.
Wesley Myers (26:41)
As you know, like if you’ve ever had one those round up plants in your town, the ground there gives you cancer.
Douglas Dedrick (26:48)
man, yeah. Well, all the farmland and the soil run off. It was fascinating because things like that, the chemicals that we make, they put fulvic acid into the water. There’s like some studies where the cities will put fulvic acid into a polluted water system and it will re-naturalize the chemical somehow. I don’t really understand the process, but it pulls it out of the water just by them dumping it in. So you can speculate from there what it does in our body.
Wesley Myers (27:13)
Well, you said it had something to do with like the carbon molecules in there, correct? Or something like that? Because I think carbon can be used for filtration.
Douglas Dedrick (27:19)
Well, we’re carbon-based lives.
Right. Well, Well, it’s, but these, where life is carbon based on earth, all life is carbon based. So when life decays, it leaves carbon deposits. And that’s where you get oil, coal, tar and fulvic acid and humic substances. They’re all forms of carbon and eventually it’d break down into a graphite. ⁓ graphene is what they want to use to communicate. Is they’re trying to recreate the ⁓ natural intelligence system.
Wesley Myers (27:25)
I’ll have to look that up. Back check me with Grok.
Douglas Dedrick (27:53)
my speculation.
Wesley Myers (27:53)
You know, people
better get onto that before these microplastics get over there then. Because I read this study about how microplastics are actually seeping into the sediment layers, going back like 200, 300 years already.
Douglas Dedrick (28:07)
Mm hmm. It’s weird, because it came from the earth and then we twist it and make it technology like we make it second class natures. What TML defined it as yesterday is like much easier way. It’s like we recreate nature into this second class of nature and it’s not the same. Obviously. But.
Wesley Myers (28:09)
So I mean, that’s.
Yeah, yeah, I can vibe
with that.
Douglas Dedrick (28:36)
So I don’t want to take away too much from the topic here of your police interactions, your book. Is there any other things you want to bring up about your book or what you’re working on?
Wesley Myers (28:48)
Um, let me think about this for a second.
Douglas Dedrick (28:56)
take your time because I’m gonna be editing this one a lot, am I? Because of me.
Wesley Myers (29:01)
Yeah, also feel like I wasn’t the most most precise. Didn’t get the straightest point across in the beginning. We’ll see.
Douglas Dedrick (29:11)
No, it’s fine. came out fine. It’s great. Don’t worry about it. Don’t doubt yourself.
Wesley Myers (29:19)
Yeah, I guess.
Douglas Dedrick (29:20)
So you got your, you’re
working on it. Yeah.
Wesley Myers (29:24)
sorry, sorry, yeah, go on.
Douglas Dedrick (29:26)
you’re so you’re working. we’ll just start over again. Cut all that out. I got like three sections. I got to cut out of this thing. It’s not your fault, ⁓ So you’re you’re working on your police book. I want to wrap this up a bit here. my God. I got sort of want to keep this short. Wesley, I don’t take up too much of your time and I appreciate you coming out to have this conversation. Is there anything else about police interactions and your book and what you’re working on that you would like to bring forth and share with us?
Wesley Myers (29:30)
Yeah. ⁓ It happens. Yeah.
⁓ I think I’d just like to give another shout out to the book Law and Disorder. It doesn’t have anything lined up to be published yet, but I will be finishing it very soon. By the time we start getting stuff lined up, I’ll be back on your podcast and then I’ll be able to talk more about the book, of course, because we’ll actually have everything formed. I’m sure once I throw it out to publishers, they’re going to throw it back at me because that’s usually how that kind of stuff goes. So I may end up self-publishing. We’ll see how that goes. Pray for me on this journey.
And you know, if that takes too long, maybe I’ll have one of my ⁓ fiction novels, science fiction or fantasy novels coming up soon too. Cause as I write a lot, I need a break from writing about real world stuff and know, people getting shot by police, police getting shot by people, pedophiles and cannibals running the country.
I do use things like Charles Manson if you’re a conspiracy minded person which a lot of people probably are after the Epstein files. use examples like Charles Manson and Epstein to point out how like they can’t actually keep us safe at least not with the way we’re doing stuff because all it takes is one intelligence agency to run over the law and order.
Douglas Dedrick (30:47)
It’s a crazy time we’re living in the moment.
Yeah, right. Those people are going to be the ones that get the pay.
Wesley Myers (31:09)
But yeah, thank you for having me so much. it was nice talking to you again. It’s been a while.
Douglas Dedrick (31:10)
⁓ Dude,
I look forward to that book. obviously I look forward to talking to you again. And when you have that published or if you have something else to bring forth, obviously you’re welcome on. Where can people find you ⁓ to find more about you if they want to follow you?
Wesley Myers (31:29)
No worry yet. You can follow me on slaythebrother at YouTube. I do stream occasionally. I’m thinking of just getting back in and like, I was making content videos where I do build recommendations because I really like doing that in video games, making just different builds, fucking around with them. Then I get bored because I have ADD and I have to make a new build. But you know, I’m thinking maybe just going on and streaming on and off occasionally and kind of just help unwind.
Douglas Dedrick (31:58)
Yeah, man, we have to that downtime, especially when you’re doing serious research like you are. And yeah, Wesley, thank you so much for taking the time. We’re going to wrap this up. Thank you all for tuning into the Healing Law Podcast. You all take care and be well.
