In this episode of The Healing Law Podcast, I sit down with Paul Unslaved (Paul Laporta), also known online as Judge Unslavius. Paul has become widely known in online legal discussion spaces for his outspoken perspectives on rights, freedom, and the difference between legal systems and natural law.
Although Paul doesn’t consider himself a traditional activist or First Amendment auditor, many people in those communities look to him for insight and perspective based on his experiences confronting the legal system and studying the difference between what is lawful and what is merely legal.
In our conversation we explore Paul’s personal journey, his experiences interacting with the legal system, and the deeper philosophical and spiritual ideas behind law, governance, and individual responsibility.
Episode Themes
- The difference between legal systems and natural law
- Self-governance and the idea of consent of the governed
- Paul’s experiences dealing with courts and law enforcement
- Why many statutes and codes differ from natural principles of justice
- Spiritual and philosophical perspectives on law and morality
- Health, stress, and nervous system balance in modern life
- Natural health approaches and mineral-based supplements
Legal vs Lawful
A central concept in this episode is the distinction between law and legal systems. According to Paul, law refers to fundamental principles tied to morality, ethics, and basic human understanding—ideas such as not harming others, not stealing, and respecting the rights of fellow human beings.
Legal systems, on the other hand, consist of statutes, policies, and codes created by governments and institutions. These rules change depending on the jurisdiction and often expand far beyond the basic principles of natural law.
The conversation explores how conflicts arise when legal systems move away from those underlying moral principles.
Self-Governance and Responsibility
Another key idea discussed in the episode is the concept of self-governance. When individuals take responsibility for their own actions and behave according to basic principles of morality, fewer external systems of control are required.
However, when societies drift away from self-governance, institutions expand their authority through policies and regulations intended to enforce order externally.
This tension between personal responsibility and institutional control lies at the heart of many legal and political debates today.
Health, Stress, and Natural Balance
Later in the discussion, Paul shares reflections on recent health challenges and how they have changed his perspective on lifestyle, stress, and personal wellbeing.
We talk about how modern life constantly stimulates the nervous system through media, politics, and social conflict. Learning to step back from that constant pressure and reconnect with natural rhythms—rest, sunlight, movement, and nutrition—can play an important role in recovery.
The conversation also touches on natural compounds such as fulvic acid and mineral-rich plant substances that may support the body’s natural processes.
Find Paul Unslaved
You can follow Paul Unslaved online:
- YouTube: Proper Instruction Motivates People
- Social Media: Paul Unslaved
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Episode Transcript:
Douglas Dedrick (00:00)
This is the Healing Law Podcast and we have world famous Judge Unslavious, aka Paul Unslaved, aka Paul Laporta. He’s a, you know, a bit of a, I don’t want to say an activist too much, but he’s somewhat to some extent for sure. He’s definitely outspoken about rights, freedoms, principles, and spiritual faith. A lot of interesting conversations come out of this young man here. ⁓ Greetings, Paul. Good to see you.
Hon. Judge Unslavius (00:26)
How are you, Douglas?
Douglas Dedrick (00:28)
doing great, man. Wonderful to have you here, man. Thank you.
Hon. Judge Unslavius (00:31)
I always feel like the fat guy from King of Queens. ⁓ When we do this format. Hello Douglas.
Douglas Dedrick (00:36)
yeah.
Hon. Judge Unslavius (00:43)
If you know you know.
Douglas Dedrick (00:43)
man,
yeah. So you got your YouTube channel, but I mean, that’s not really who you are. We want to get behind, we see Paul and Slave, the world famous, you know, judge and slavius on YouTube panel all the time, but ⁓ we want to get behind the curtains, Paul. What makes you tick, man?
Hon. Judge Unslavius (01:02)
you stay in front of me where I can see you, quite frankly. ⁓ Yeah. I mean, I guess that’s a, that’s a great question. ⁓ What makes me tick? Well, I like to believe that I’m like most people, you know, I have certain things that inspire me and certain things that I’m passionate about care about, you know, think are important to myself and others. ⁓ And of course I have some
rather interesting habits in my life at times where I make interesting choices, let’s I guess if we’re going to step back from it and take the whole view, right? You got to take the good with the bad for going raw and uncut here. But yeah, I think there’s a light side and a dark side to everyone and everything in a sense, right? And I don’t think that I’m any different.
Douglas Dedrick (01:39)
huh.
Very humble young man here, Paul and slaves. ⁓ So you’ve made quite an impact in the First Amendment auditor spaces. You yourself aren’t really a First Amendment auditor by any means, but they do look to you for some reason as some sort of guidance and leadership, I would say. For some reason. For some reason.
Hon. Judge Unslavius (02:21)
I like that for some reason.
Yeah. Well, that’s because some of my earlier videos, some of my first videos, you know, the, the, the, the one video that if, if you know me at all, you would know me from, ⁓ cause I hear it all the time. I loved you in that one video with the traveling without a license, registration, insurance and plates. Valdez officer Valdez. So, ⁓ yeah.
That’s how we came into this is the legal awful thing, right? Because that was something that I was kind of heavily into studying for kind of decades, I guess, at that point. I don’t really keep track of it, but I can’t really pinpoint when I started and it hasn’t ended. yeah, you know, the legal awful side of things. That’s pretty much the introduction to YouTube. ⁓ And then we kind of, I guess, went on to other things, explored other aspects itself.
and the space. But I think that’s why, you know, if you say for some reason, these folks look to me or value my opinion or perspective is because they’ve seen me over and over again, ⁓ working in these scenarios and these situations with these types of folks and getting some results. And by some results that could just range from dismissals at court regularly to they didn’t beat me up and arrest me this time.
You know, so ⁓ that’s the world that we’re in at this point. If they don’t beat you up and arrest you, then you’re getting results. So you tend to, yeah, you garner some, some type of credibility, right?
Douglas Dedrick (03:59)
It’s some kind of a win.
Right, so you’ve learned from like a lot of these thinkers like I forget I cannot think of his name off hand He came on your panel recently a couple times Excellent thinker. What’s his name?
Hon. Judge Unslavius (04:18)
It’s not Snap-Fu Snaps, is it?
Douglas Dedrick (04:20)
No,
Hon. Judge Unslavius (04:22)
If you know, you know,
hashtag that’s my new hashtag. You got to pick a hashtag every so often, Douglas and just run with it. You know, hashtag Israel first. Yeah. I’m to get you syndicated here. Hashtag Israel first. Okay.
Douglas Dedrick (04:26)
Here we go.
Yes, yes, it’s the hip thing to do. of course.
Hon. Judge Unslavius (04:42)
Go ahead, you were saying?
Douglas Dedrick (04:43)
We’re going
all the way to top, man. Oh, I can’t think, Hmm.
Hon. Judge Unslavius (04:53)
Thinker.
Douglas Dedrick (04:53)
To what,
like, when did you first, so you went through a whole prison experience, right? Is that what kind of motivated you to start getting the rights and freedoms and principles, like, or the legal versus lawful spectrum? Or was it before that?
Hon. Judge Unslavius (05:04)
Well, Douglas,
that was the first time somebody tried to get behind me, as you say, and go behind the curtain at prison experience. ⁓ I don’t like to talk about it much. ⁓ no, I’m, I’m, I’m jesting there, but, ⁓ yeah, not prison jail. If there’s a difference, right? Only the jailbirds know the difference. I guess the average person is going to go jail prison. What’s the difference, but they are apparently, ⁓ different in, in, in certain ways. Some argue.
County jail being worse than prison as far as doing time. But yeah, a hundred days, you know, which in, in my line of work nowadays, ⁓ at times, right, if I’m not going to be following statute policy and code, ⁓ it’s not too terrible, right? A hundred days. ⁓ and then I guess in the line of work that I used to be in, ⁓ or lack thereof a hundred days isn’t, isn’t too bad, right? That was again at a time when I was involved with,
say less than savory characters, less than sweet and savory characters, including myself. ⁓ you know, drugs, sort of other activities going on. Yeah, that that life, that lifestyle is typically going to lead to jail. So, yeah, I mean, even that’s kind of a testament to me of some level of trust and faith in the universe and the program because ⁓
When I was dealing in drugs and doing things I probably shouldn’t have been doing, ⁓ I wound up having to go to jail and stay in jail. Since I’ve been ⁓ kind of practicing upholding the law and exercising rights and going to jail for that, I’ve never had to stay yet, ⁓ God willing. I go for two, three days, we go to court. Usually things are dismissed or I elect to not come back and present myself. And then I don’t know
what happens to these cases, but when I’m arrested again, they tell me there’s no warrants and nothing seems to be there.
Yeah, worked out.
Douglas Dedrick (07:14)
So
for those that don’t know the difference between legal and lawful, your rhetoric there is on point. Could you explain what is the difference between legal versus lawful and why does this legal system exist?
Hon. Judge Unslavius (07:31)
Well, mean, one thing I always go to, there’s a bunch of things I always point to, but there’s a law society and a legal society for a reason because they’re not the same. ⁓ If we’re going to talk law, a good way that I kind of look at or understand it, again, this is all just my perspective. I’m not claiming to know what it is. I’m just talking about what it seems to be. ⁓ law is essentially principles. ⁓
and sort of practices that are inherent to us as a creature from a standpoint of morality, logic, and ethics, right? So like, don’t kill, don’t steal, don’t do wrong, right? You know, if you do wrong, then you’re involved in sin and sin is synonymous with wrong and guilt, right? So we say guilty, not guilty. So these are things that anybody anywhere on the planet
seemingly ⁓ could come to a determination without having to be told by anybody else. And then there’s the legal side of things, right? Which is more policy related, policy and code related. It’s essentially rules for men by men. Right? So, that’s kind of one way that I distinguish it. One is more inherent to the universe and creation. It’s an inherent experience or product of the universe and the creation. ⁓ The other is sort of a
a creation from the mind and culture of man, right? And it can vary wildly.
⁓ Yeah, it’s a corporate endeavor is another way that I oftentimes look at it and phrase it.
Douglas Dedrick (09:16)
Damn, well yeah, like the, I think the legal system kind of applies to those, which is all of us at some point in our lives for the most part, the legal system is for those who can’t obey the law themselves and govern themselves accordingly. So there’s this whole system of endless laws put in place to attempt to govern us externally, but obviously that’s not going to be nearly as effective as a self-governing populace would be.
Hon. Judge Unslavius (09:42)
Well, that’s one of the things that I had to confront at some point that everything that we see as legal spiritually has a reason for being precisely because of what you just laid out, right? If we are a self-governing being on a self-governing sort of land or part of what we call a self-governing nation, then we all intrinsically inherently have to know the law.
⁓ If we refuse to govern ourselves properly and we cause loss, and harm and want to lie, cheat and steal, well then someone, something, ⁓ is going to codify that law and then try to enforce that upon us, right? So ⁓ yeah, that’s one way you could look at it, right? If America as a country or a corporation was operating properly, then code, statute policy and code would all just be essentially codifications
of the inherent laws of the universe or laws of man, you know? So Statute 1.235A would read, don’t steal from your fellow man.
But again, this is why I believe the spirit of the law that’s codified in the contract called the Constitution originally is worded, and I’m paraphrasing something along the lines of when the attempt to govern involved in self-governance of and by and for the people is enforced through policy and it is destructive of the ends.
you know, the, the, it’s destructive of the mechanism of proper government. Well, then any statute policy and code is rendered illegitimate. And we also go over the idea of consent to the governed, right? I think there’s a lot of key phrases and, and, and sort of ideals that are encoded in, the constitution or bill of rights declaration of independence, these various codifications of certain spirit of inherent law of who and what we are.
reveal the mind and the heart of the creator. Not only the creator of the document, but the creator of life or man himself, so to speak.
Douglas Dedrick (11:56)
Yeah, absolutely. The consent of the government is huge. So it’s like when people come to you and they’re like, well, how do you get why isn’t he in jail? You know, why isn’t Paul enslaved in jail? Why is he free? Why is he free? So why is he free if it’s if you’re not listening to these policy statutes and codes? Like what is it about you that is it enables you to enables you to like govern yourself?
Hon. Judge Unslavius (12:07)
Why is he free?
Douglas Dedrick (12:24)
through these systems despite what they tell you to do.
Hon. Judge Unslavius (12:29)
Well, I mean, that’s the thing, right? This is where, and it’s always the case. You get to receive what you perceive as we joke around certain areas. everyone gets to make up their own mind about why that is. I can’t conclusively tell you why that is because I don’t know conclusively, right? mean, coming into a lot of this, I was guy number one in a way expecting, well, at some point, they’re going to put it on me.
And that may be still yet to come, right? ⁓ Once over and over again, that hasn’t happened, I started to feel like, okay, maybe I do have an understanding here. Maybe it does make sense, right? Because you get gaslit. you’re a conspiracy theorist. You’re a sovereign citizen. You don’t know the law or legalities the way these experts and authorities do. You’re just pulling this out of your ass, right? For lack of a better term.
But yeah, like anything else, man, I mean, if you go into this like anything, I want to believe, and I think this might be part of the idea. If you go into anything with the right intentions for the right reasons and you do your best, you’re pretty decent at what you do, right? You try to stay honorable and good faith and work and trust, then you want to believe things will work out some way, somehow. Right? So being a person who at some point has had revealed to me what seems to be ⁓
Again, this idea of law or program inherent in the universe. ⁓ I have to presume that kind of, you know, all things are working toward what they’re meant to work toward, right? So I think that there’s a fair amount of this idea of trust and faith and this revelation of God. I don’t really like that term, but it’s a kind of a word for a description of an experience. Yeah.
that that’s behind it, right? I’m using a lot of words to try to.
wrap my mind around it. But I think that that’s a big part of it, right? It’s something that I think oftentimes with a lot of folks ⁓ gets overlooked, right? When they say that. And I know, I know you get that from certain folks who’ve said that on the broadcast, why is he free? And why aren’t you in jail? ⁓ I think it doesn’t even occur to them that the universe just may have a program or a plan or an energy, and it just may back you.
If you’re in alignment, regardless of kind of who you are and what your past is. Again, maybe that’s just my sort of hopeful or romanticized thinking, right? But then at some point you got to look at the track record, you know, because I think that’s where I think that’s where God shows itself, right? It may shine through us all at times, but the record speaks for itself, you know, and I just don’t believe in coincidences on that level. So
I get arrested six times in five years, never signed nothing, never paid for nothing, never agreed to nothing, never spoke on anybody else to get out of trouble, quote unquote. Just did what was true and what’s right, stood on it, was unwavering. And somehow, someway, here we are, Everything seems to work out, so.
Douglas Dedrick (15:54)
Yeah.
Yeah, it’s like God is like moves and that’s still quiet voice, but it’s like it’s operating in silence in the background. But you can see it when you reflect back. It’s like the to me and my experience is like the the level of like interactions I’ve had, you know, encounters I’ve had with police. I’ve had many encounters and used to be I would always get tickets, always get in trouble. And now over time, like as I’ve had the same experiences with police again.
The energy is different. They don’t treat me the same. Typically, you just treat them like a man rather than a police officer you’re scared of. it changes the whole dynamic, really puts things in position. They recognize that in my experience. Over time, it’s like there does seem to be this principle that shows itself over that there is this program running in the background that somehow protects those who are seeking to do what’s right.
Their heart is convicted for that, whether or not the people around them believe that’s what is right, you know, the whole legal system and with the lawyers and the police officers and all this, but there’s clearly something higher governing everything. From my experience.
Hon. Judge Unslavius (17:10)
I would
also make the statement, and this then calls into question how important we really are as beings, which is something, you know, having to face kind of my own death recently with health issues. ⁓ I was forced to look at it again, you know, and re-examine how important we really are as individuals versus how important the ideas that we hold and act upon, right? And again, it would seem that
if there’s a force behind the scenes that is backing for the right reasons and there’s a force behind the scenes that is also doling out, let’s say tests and challenges from the darker side of things. ⁓ So with that in mind, is there once again, if we talk about this idea of inherent law, also inherent justice, where if you do what’s right, then the universe backs you to an extent.
Douglas Dedrick (17:54)
Hmm.
Hon. Judge Unslavius (18:07)
within the boundaries of law. And if you do wrong, whether you get caught or not, right, if you cause loss, injury, and harm to others, then at some point you get what you give, right? And things take a turn. So, ⁓ yeah, I think that there is something to that, right? And it just might be like most things of this and that scenario. We are here to play the game at times and to act and do certain things. We’re also here at times
to step back and surrender. We’re not called to do those same things because someone else is going to be called to step up and fill that position, right? Is what potentially, you know, I’ve kind of been shown indirectly or I been intuiting.
Douglas Dedrick (18:57)
Yeah, there’s all yeah, I Don’t know how much you want to get into your health thing I mean you bring it up but like have you found success and like healing yourself and knowing your relationship to your body or are you going to doctors and stuff?
Hon. Judge Unslavius (19:14)
Well, I would have to because if we’re walking an authentic journey here and we find ourselves today at a place called healing law, then it would only make sense that, you know, physician heal by self, right? I believe the, the beings in the scripture supposedly said something along that line. ⁓ yeah, man, I was, I was real bad at one point, you know, and it was constant.
Douglas Dedrick (19:36)
Hmm.
Hon. Judge Unslavius (19:41)
And more recently, I’ve found a bit of reprieve, a bit of refreshment. yeah, I’m trusting in the common sensibility and doing what seems to make sense, living as supernaturally as possible, naturally as possible. And yeah, I have a trust and faith that I’m recovering and I’ll recuperate.
Douglas Dedrick (20:11)
Yeah, it takes a lot to do that, but to me, that’s the right path is to embrace that on your own because your body speaks to you more than it speaks to anyone outside of you. Like they don’t have the feelings that you have. They can’t feel. So your body, our bodies communicate with us about what’s going on and we can find. And I believe in all circumstances, if not almost, that we can find how to.
develop that relationship with our body so that it functions properly again. You the organs play you know sometimes they their notes get a little out of tune and they need just a little bit extra water or something a little exercise sunlight grounding it’s simple solutions typically is all that’s needed for most part but everybody’s
Hon. Judge Unslavius (21:00)
Yeah. And I think also too, ⁓
well, you know, something that I think is overlooked, you know, I’ve overlooked it at times is taking your own pulse as far as your nervous system. You know, like, are you in a continuous heightened state, especially the world that we quote unquote live in nowadays, right? We always use that phrase, the world we live in, where we live in is, you know, one of, if you let it be, we’ll constantly be bombarded with ⁓
certain fears and negative energies and attacks on your nervous system essentially, right? Not only do we experience that externally, in a sense, but we also replicate that internally at times, right? Holding onto these certain thoughts and ideas and instead of even experiencing that and using that as an inspiration to motivate you to do more, you just get kind of caught in that loop of, you know,
Douglas Dedrick (21:39)
Hmm.
Hon. Judge Unslavius (22:01)
the world stage, the politics, the war, the chemtrails, all the rest of it. I’m guy number one for all that, right? And then you gotta remember to still keep living and to find peace and joy throughout the day, right? And still have love and care for yourself and try to have love and care for the life that you’re living, right? And that’s definitely a challenging tight rope walk to be involved in, right?
Douglas Dedrick (22:09)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Hon. Judge Unslavius (22:30)
so to speak,
it’s kind of like you’re always potentially maybe shifting one way or the other. It’s still something I kind of have up for debate with myself. How much of this life is is purpose oriented where we need to know the truth and speak the truth and be the truth and the facts versus pleasure oriented, right? Kind of remembering that, we don’t come here to constantly be at war with ourselves and each other.
and rolling these boulders up hills and fighting these battles. We’ve got to remember to take a step back and live life, enjoy life, and at least rest. Have a rest at times.
Douglas Dedrick (23:04)
Mm.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the world hijacks our nervous system to get us going all the time and engaged with all the anger and hatred and fear, the reasons that we need the government to step in and protect us. know, a little side note, because, you know, this this podcast is sponsored by my full of a cast of company, American Grit, full of it. Have you ever tried Shilajit?
Hon. Judge Unslavius (23:38)
Yeah, I have.
Douglas Dedrick (23:40)
What do you think about that? Does it have an impact on you?
Hon. Judge Unslavius (23:44)
I mean, I got to a point where I started experimenting with a lot of things, plants, herbs, herbs and spices. So I can’t say conclusively one way the other what’s doing what kind of a useless experiment, right? Cause if you’re taking all these things and even if you find improvements, you don’t really know, you know, you can’t really pinpoint or isolate ⁓ where that’s coming from.
Douglas Dedrick (23:58)
Yeah.
Hon. Judge Unslavius (24:13)
I mean, listen, ⁓ they say the Shilajit is rotting plants and organic matter. And over time it becomes mineral rich, as I understand it. And those minerals go through certain processes over a long period of time. And they say it’s beneficial to certain aspects of the body’s processes.
makes just as much, if not more sense as 14 shots for safety. If you get where I’m going here, ⁓ you know, ⁓ so yeah, I mean, you know, ultimately, ultimately who knows, right? There’s going to be somebody out there. If anyone winds up watching this or listening to this, ⁓ somebody’s going to be out there saying, I know all about Shillage. You might be that guy, Douglas.
Douglas Dedrick (24:44)
Right.
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Hon. Judge Unslavius (25:07)
I know you are guy at a feeling right? Yeah.
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Hon. Judge Unslavius (25:45)
Well, I’m glad you brought
it up Douglas because this show is also ⁓ sponsored by, have two Shilajit companies here. There’s healing law. And then we have a Israeli ⁓ supplier and, and, our Shilajit from the Israeli supplier is made from the actual bones of Palestinians. ⁓ That’s how we know that it’s mineral rich. So feel free to go to healing law.com order now.
Douglas Dedrick (25:50)
yeah.
You
Hon. Judge Unslavius (26:17)
I’m totally gonna get you syndicated.
Douglas Dedrick (26:21)
Man I don’t want to take up your whole day man. We got it. There’s anything else you want to comment on I mean, thank you for your time
Hon. Judge Unslavius (26:28)
The giving you the sign, huh? The Israeli Shiloh didn’t go over well. All right. Well, we’ll, we’ll wrap it up. Douglas. I appreciate you. Yeah. I appreciate you having me here. ⁓ it was a great back and forth colloquy as they say at court. ⁓ and yeah, I look forward to being back at some point. We can go deeper.
Douglas Dedrick (26:32)
Wrap it up, wrap it up.
Yeah, man, that’d be great. And
all of my stuff together better. Today, I’m not prepared. I’m flying through interviews. yeah, I appreciate you having taken the time. And I always appreciate talking to you. Paul Enslaved is your channel at… ⁓ no, it’s at Proper Instruction Motivates People.
Hon. Judge Unslavius (27:08)
Right. The acronym is Pimp Unslave because I was trying to be edgy and controversial. It’s part of my brand. Yeah. At Pimp Unslave.
Douglas Dedrick (27:19)
Is there anywhere else people can reach you if they want
to reach out to? Or anything else you want to plug? All right.
Hon. Judge Unslavius (27:24)
I don’t want to be reached. I’ll reach out to you. Whoever you are, wherever
you are out there, just trust in God that if it’s meant to be, I will find you Facebook slave book, ⁓ Insta slave, you know, I’m on all the usual platforms as Paul on slave. So if folks are that hung up on getting a hold of me, right? If they really have something they want to say to me,
Douglas Dedrick (27:36)
man.
Hon. Judge Unslavius (27:53)
I’m sure that they can find a way. I’m on tick tock too. do like tick tock dances. Douglas, we got to do that one day. Tick tock decks. No, don’t actually do tick tock dance. ⁓ I am on there with, with similar content, legal, stuff, et cetera, et cetera.
Douglas Dedrick (28:00)
really?
I’ll definitely check that out
Hmm. I’ve never seen a hard
to find out what is that? We’ll see. ⁓
Hon. Judge Unslavius (28:15)
What? Tick tock?
Tick tock. Yeah. It’s a, you don’t know. Tick tock. Where have you been? ⁓ I you said what’s the app. it’s, don’t know what exactly it’s Paul enslaved. I’m Paul enslaved on everything.
Douglas Dedrick (28:20)
No, what’s your at on TikTok, Paul?
Okay, awesome Well, thank you so much for your time. This is the healing all podcast world famous judge and slave. He’s aka Paul and slave Paula Porter Thank you so much for taking your time to be here today and you all be well Thank you
Hon. Judge Unslavius (28:43)
Thank you Douglas. See you later.
